This is an old 2017 interview with Stewart Brand, which is a great listen — I loved Tim and Stewart’s discussion of the farewell words of the Whole Earth Catalog “Stay hungry. Stay foolish.” It’s inspiring to be reminded to keep curiousity and drive instead of letting yourself become complacent, passive, and distracted.

And how much these words impacted Steve Jobs — he used them as his ending encouragement in his famous 2005 Stanford Commencement speech.